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In the third of our exclusive Legend of the Seeker interviews I spoke to cult favourite Bruce Spence. As well as his role as Zedd the wizard in Legend of the Seeker (which starts this Thursday at 20.00) Bruce made me one happy fan-boy by speaking about his roles in Mad Max 2 and The Return of the King.
After playing an assortment of weird and wonderful characters in fantasy and sci-fi over the years how does it feel to finally be playing the wise old mentor?
Well I guess I've served my apprenticeship. Zedd is certainly a grand character and I've been in scenes with Gandalf, Obi Wan Kenobi, and assorted characters so I'm prepared to take on the mantle of a mentor; a wizard character in this quite superb epic.
It's come to my attention that you frequently turn up in the third instalment of huge sci-fi and fantasy franchises, most recently the third Narnia film which will be filming soon. Are you conscious of that?
It's serendipitous really the way it occurs, it's quite by accident. But it's interesting that that occurs, yeah [laughs]. It's a strange coincidence, three must be my lucky number.
At six foot seven I've read you're one of the tallest actors in the business. How does that affect all the horse riding you do in Legend of the Seeker?
It's fine really, I have a big horse. I'm actually six foot six, I don't know where this six foot seven has come from. Surprisingly there are a few actors a little taller than me, but I definitely am one of the tallest in the business. It's been an advantage and a disadvantage. One of the reasons I've found myself in sci-fi and fantasy films to a certain degree is because of my physical shape. But also for some reason I just seem to find myself in that genre.
As you've just mentioned you have obviously appeared in a wealth of sci-fi and fantasy films, but are they genres you're interested in outside of acting, as in reading and watching films?
Interestingly no. I've always been interested in the concept of mythology. It deals with stories that involve the unconscious, and these are stories that fascinate me. The work of Joseph Campbell I'm a great fan of, he's someone who's documented all those mythological parallels that exist within this earth. There are stories that need to be told and every culture shares similarities in these stories, and that in itself interests me.
And how about the Terry Goodkind Sword of Truth books. Have you had a chance to read those?
Definitely. When you get involved in a series like this you have to familiarise yourself with them. The essence of Zedd from those books I've taken. You may be aware that in the first season we used Wizard's First Rule as a foundation, but because of the networks standalone requirements we've also diverted from those books. We've used many stories from the Wizard's First Rule, but we've created many of our own as well.
How does it feel to see New Zealand becoming the unofficial home of fantasy TV and film production?
I'm quite impressed. To be really honest I've worked in a number of international films and worked in a number of countries. From the very first day on set [of Legend of the Seeker] I was very impressed by the standard of the crew, of the camera department, of the special effects department; I was really in awe of that whole area and I felt enormously confident from the first day that we had a great team and obviously the history of all the Lord of the Rings films, and some of the Narnia films have created a wealth of talent here that we definitely are tapping.
It's maybe fair to say the role you're most remembered for is as the Gyro Captain in Mad Max 2. At the time did you realise you were making something that would go on to be such a cult favourite?
[Laughs] Not at all. We knew we were making something unusual, and there we were in the Outback of Australia with these strange cars and these strange people telling an extremely strange story, especially in Australian conditions. We either thought it was going to be something quite fantastic and out there and new, or an absolute disaster. Fortunately it went the other way. It was quite a watershed film in a way. It really showed the Americans how we could take some of their genres and some of their storylines and add to them and make them that much better.
If there was any character you could play, not just from sci-fi or fantasy, who would that be?
To be really honest it's the character I'm playing at the present time, and that's Zedd right now. This time two or three years ago I never dreamt I'd play Zedd. Right now Zedd preoccupies my time and my imagination. But who knows what's going to be round the corner in the next couple of years. I'm getting on in years, I'm not all that old, but I'm 63 now. I'm amazed that I've come this far, I'm so lucky to have had the roles I've had.
With that in mind do you prefer playing good guys or bad guys?
I love both. Because both of them celebrate various elements of the human psyche and I guess after playing Zedd for so long I'll be looking forward to playing someone nice and evil. It's nice to play both sides of the fence, that's the beauty of being an actor, that you can put yourself in that situation and you can explore those evil parts of one's psyche or the really good parts, or those really challenging and agonising parts.
One more question for you. When you were filming the Mouth of Sauron scene for The Return of the King, were you aware of just how creepy that was going to turn out?
No, and interestingly enough it was a pretty panicky day. I was aware that the character had to be a serious character and regarded as serious in a rather horrific way and we wanted to blast the audiences out of their seats with this awful character. But I noticed when the director, Peter Jackson, was sitting over the video watching me perform he kept laughing, and I was thinking to myself 'I hope I'm not playing this for comedy'. Of course, it wasn't; he knew what he wanted, and he was getting it. I had no idea. It's interesting that I'm often so preoccupied with what I'm doing on the other side of the camera I'm not really one of those actors who watches themselves on screen so I often don't know how the finished article has ended up.
Well it turned out very well...
Well I must admit, the best thing about being an actor is creating a role; with a director, with good acting; with good camera, with good special effects you can push a character in a dramatic moment to areas where I never dreamed they'd go. We went a long way with that one.
Read our interviews with Bruce's Legend of the Seeker co-stars Craig Horner and Bridget Regan.
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Hi, like all actors do you have a stand-in? Do they have to stand on a soap box to mimic your height?
I have not read the books but am interested to. I absolutely love the series. But I am sure if I had read the books first, I might be disappointed like many of you seem to be. (Example: The Harry Potters books are totally amazing. The movies are terrible; however, the characters give them faces.) I wonder if I will appreciate the books as being different stories from the TV series. Cuz I really like the series!
I love zedd the character and i think they need to keep Bruce Spence on the show and keep it on the air for as many seasons as you can. i love Zedd!!!!!
I think it's a great series.Zed is by far the best with his magic love the magic, Richared i am sure will come into his own, Kahlan is just wonderful. I do like that there are two episodes toget you hooked and yes the books are better but they always are!!!
was really excited when by accident i came across this series. Having read all of the books, i can quite understand why some of the more darker side is kept out. Even with the books i had to skip some of the more dark dark sides. Richard was not quite what i would have imagined, nevertheless i think he too will grow on you as the story unfolds. Having said that it is harder to watch something visual after spending so many many hours non stop reading of these books. Still good shout for even trying. Also glad of two showings as i cant always bank of certain nights.
Enjoyed interview with Bruce. Seldom get to hear from him. Talented actor. Looking forward to season 2 and maybe 3.
Enjoyed interview with Bruce. Seldom get to hear from him. Talented actor. Looking forward to season 2 and maybe 3.
Comments went all over here, back to Bruce . . . I think he makes a great Zedd and I'm glad he's having so much fun at it. Reports are that he's quite a fine companion for the cast and crew and both a gentleman and great fun. His spirit comes through rather well in the interview, I think. Re the fuss over the TV adaptation, I saw about half the episodes then started reading the saga. Finished the whole thing, all eleven (or twelve, if you count the small one) in about eight weeks and after it all, I'm more appreciative of the series, not less. I think they're trying very, very hard indeed to be as faithful to the spirit of the saga as they can within the inescapable constraint of episodic TV and production cost limitations. Not only are they trying, I think they're getting better and also are becoming more comfortable and adept at exploring territory beyond the published saga without worrying about offending the fans. I think they were brave even to attempt translating such a rich and complex story to the screen and I'd shake every hand of cast, writers, directors and crew and thank them if I could. I'd even buy them all shoo-fly pie.
Awsome seeries, awsome actor and role.
I love Zedd!!!I love LEGEND OF THE SEEKER
We went a long way with that one. hahaha, you certainly did. The Mouth of Sauronn is pure evil.
I already know a lot of people are going to bhe pissed of at the fact that not only left out a lot of the story and also changed some, but they have to make it so people who didn't read the book understands whats going on, they can't give a detailed acount of everything thats going on. Also when they were making this series programe surely you would have knew they were going to cut a lot out the books are very detailed, Terry Goodkind got offers from hollywood to make the sword of truth series into films and he refused becuase they would have missed out so much of the film. In reality you should be greatful by how detailed it is at the moment and should be greateful they even made the series programme.
seen better book to movies/tv adaptions. Did they read the books or just open it and point to certain parts and say we'll take this, this and this change this get rid of that? It could of been done a lot better. The book of counted shadows was given to him as a boy and only when he could write and recite it from memory did the book get destroyed and Zedd showed Richard how to use the sword and that it takes a toll on him by asking him to attack a tree which where planted in memory of Zedd's wife and daughter. Not what i was expecting at all 2/10 well and truly been butchered. The books are for more entertaining and you wont be left confused by missing story lines
ledgend of the seeker ....... cant wait
they have butchered the story, changed too many things and made up thier own storylines.
As someone nearly 15 years ago bought the First of Terry's book Wizards first Rule, I knew a series was under way a while back what I didn't invisage was Sam Riami macking such a complete and utter mess of it!
I haven't read the books I'm afraid so can't comment on the series as an adaptation. But as a standalone fantasy series I thought it was great and I'll certainly be tuning into future episodes.